30+ Temporary Bans.

[Trunks]

Hi Flowsioners,

We have temporary banned over 30 users for abusing the glitch that allows you to add more skill points then the mastery book you have. We have given users the benefit of the doubt for most cases (I.E having a mastery of 10 and having 11 points in it) but for those who obviously abused the glitch (I.E having a mastery of 10 and having 20 or 30 points) you have been temporary banned.

We would like to remind users that abusing glitches is not permitted and even though 'you've seen others do it' the best route is to report it, not to abuse it.

20 points over the limit got a 2 week ban, 10 points over the limit got a week ban.

Thanks & Happy Flowsioning!

[B0WJOB]

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[Kaasoljoyyx]

First time around was

Maiden
Invincible
Bolarpear
Stefan

[Desolation]

whoa o___O 30+

I guess temp banning does send the right message though to everyone not to abuse glitches. It's not fair that people max out their skills @ 30 when they haven't earned the books.

[waffles]

7 points isnt over the 10 point limit o.o

[Trunks]

It's high enough that you should have realized something was wrong.

[manspwnyou]

Woah long list of people compaining is coming. I can feel it. But they deserve it for abusing glitchs

[Sykadelia]

I'm very saddened to see the amount of players that abused this glitch when Bui showed the logs. The people banned are allowed to create alternate characters, but should take heed that glitch abuse to such an extent will not go unnoticed.

[waffles]

i knew it was too high but there wasnt much i could do about it since it was the server lag that caused me to over add on my stats

and theres really no point abusing it on shadow claw, since its only like a 14 second difference from 10-17

[Hiep]

there goes half of fms

[Desolation]

he did say they did give some people the benefit of the doubt: like for those people with 1 sp over the limit, I doubt they got banned, since it's more of an accident that way. By the time you hit 5-6 over the limit, you should be thinking to youself to stop. Once its over 10, you know somebody thought it through and spammed the button with actual intent of abusing the glitch.

Half of FMS is stretching it XD

[waffles]

but its the fact that i couldnt see i went over until the lag stopped, and i was spam clicking because it wasnt going up so i was like wtf O-o, and the the lag stopped and i had 17 shadow claw <.<

[Bui]

I'd like to point out that more than 50% of these were due to Maple Warrior. Hope you enjoyed your extra 5% stats.

[katakos]

GG to the max x1

[blaine]

Yay, all of my friends are banned, way to make a dying server fun again!

[Quissy]

Wow half of my buddylist got banned O.o. Ok maybe not half, but quite some... Though I agree with the banns I think.

[Loddlaen]

Woah long list of people compaining is coming. I can feel it. But they deserve it for abusing glitchs

Yeah, like you fucking know the story... Before you sit there high and mighty smug in your superiorty that these people "deserve it" for "abusing glitches", realise that it can happen purely by mistake. My GF is the first name on the list and she was sitting next to me and talking looking at me while clicking adding points and clicked 3 extra without realising. (GMs check I think its 13 points in blizzard). She assumed she had found a glitch and had lost those 3 points but they would be reset so didnt even think of reporting.
It she was going to abuse this glitch, don't you think all over her skills would be over the level and blizzard would be a lot higher than 13?

[Cindy]

oh darn. oh well i still quit.

[Tykian]

ONOZ I KANT PLAE 1 WEEK I KWIT DIS R DUM.

Pfft, how childish, can't play for 1 week so you cry.

[Kate]

i LOLed.
serves em right.

[Loddlaen]

ONOZ I KANT PLAE 1 WEEK I KWIT DIS R DUM.

Pfft, how childish, can't play for 1 week so you cry.

Pot... kettle... black...

[B0WJOB]

edit: a mod can delete this post. I don't want to waste my time or energy on few of these pathetic comments

[Cindy]

ONOZ I KANT PLAE 1 WEEK I KWIT DIS R DUM.

Pfft, how childish, can't play for 1 week so you cry.

i haven't played in hella weeks/months, why would i cry over a 1 week ban? i can be perma ban i still don't give a fuck lololol play Atlantica Online!

[Atarxia]

I think temporary ban is too strict, and they probably don't mind resetting the skills if they're told that that it's an abusive glitch. Even though it might be obvious, but still...

[Neko]

Last couple of weeks I only logged in to sit in fm for a while every 2-3 days. Wanted to keep myself from playing, knew this would happen, did it in purpose. Succes.

[Curtis]

I think it is quite reasonable since like Flowsion and many others have reasoned, you may not be aware if you did it just one or two points++ up, but if it's more than 5, then you're definitely trying to take advantage of the system, more so if you added 20... WTF I wonder who did?

[AquaSky]

I think the bans are right AND not right at the same time.

Some people lag like mad. Their skills would not even go up until it is too late, and they would have like 10 above the maximum. The same almost happened for me on my MM and NL, I wanted level 9 mw on my NL, lagged and got level 12. Just think if someone was half way across the world, and lagged 2x as much, they'd have 15+ mw without realizing. But some lagged themselves on purpose to get their desired SP. Which is why these bans are right and at the same time not right. It is best to ban the majority than leave someone who did it on purpose, hoping for 20 got 15 or so and getting let off.

[Void]

I feel sorry for those people who accidentally added points and got a temp ban.

I for one will admit that I did it on purpose and if there are further repurcussions for doing so then so be it. Having said that I in no way argue or disagree with the ban, there is no doubt that I did abuse a glitch and should be punished for it.

However, I don't feel any guilt for having done so. I think some of those who got banned, me included did this knowing that there would be punishment however, we just saw having more in some skill to be worth the risk. I don't blame anyone who did abuse it. Personally I just got bored of waiting and abusing this glitch in some ways did prolong the fun.

I acknowledge and appreciate all the work that the developers and gms have done and all the time and effort that they have put into this server. I commend them for what they've achieved and for the sacrifice in time they've made to make this server and this community what it is today. My buddylist and guild have been slowly fading. Of course people still come on to chat but not much else, and even these people grow fewer. I know the gms and developers all have lives, devote alot of time and effort into the server and don't need to be told that some people are losing interest and are playing less frequently or not at all due to waiting for content; but it's true.

I think with this temp ban i'll decide to join this group of people, stop playing for awhile and focus on my final year of school for now.

Once again thanks for all that the gms and developers have done. Thanks for the nice community that has been created by this server and I do hope that this server will attract more people and become even better than it is today and perhaps will even attract back some of the old players aswell.

[B0WJOB]

Once again thanks for all that the gms and developers have done. Thanks for the nice community that has been created by this server and I do hope that this server will attract more people and become even better than it is today and perhaps will even attract back some of the old players aswell.

looking by their posts and seeing how some ppl act in game,
some of the people here don't deserved to be count in as being part of the "nice community"

true that.

[Yojie]

Wahhh I actually didn't know you could be banned for this. I do admit to doing it on purpose (27 bow expert....) but it was purely out of curiousity since at that time I had only recently heard of it and thought to try it out, not actually thinking for a second that it was glitch abuse. Ah well, I guess you could say I just had a "curiousity killed the cat" experience! But I must say, this is a blessing in disguise. I am just glad this was implemented during my final few weeks of uni and not let's say... during my holidays.... oh that would suck.

[Ark]

Flowsion is losing players as days pass by. This kinda made it worse :/

[Dr.House]

ONOZ I KANT PLAE 1 WEEK I KWIT DIS R DUM.

Pfft, how childish, can't play for 1 week so you cry.

lol Tyk, way to be blunt :P

[Congee]

I will say that I think the bans are fair if you went over a certain amount, and while yes, I do feel bad that those who accidentally did it out of lag, from a ... staff.. viewpoint, I don't think we should unban people who want to use that excuse, not because we don't believe you (again, I sympathize with you), but simply because those that were fairly banned but don't want to admit to their wrongdoing, may and will try to use that same excuse [lag] to be unbanned.
Longgg run-on sentence.

So those of you who put more than x points by accident, due to lag, full sympathy for you and apologies for the seemingly unfair ban.

This is my own standpoint, and not a statement from the staff.

[AquaSky]

As I said before, it's the only fair way, no way to tell who did it on purpose or by accident.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Yeah, like you fucking know the story... Before you sit there high and mighty smug in your superiorty that these people "deserve it" for "abusing glitches", realise that it can happen purely by mistake. My GF is the first name on the list and she was sitting next to me and talking looking at me while clicking adding points and clicked 3 extra without realising. (GMs check I think its 13 points in blizzard). She assumed she had found a glitch and had lost those 3 points but they would be reset so didnt even think of reporting.
It she was going to abuse this glitch, don't you think all over her skills would be over the level and blizzard would be a lot higher than 13?

1. It's not an IP banned, you can make another character/play another account, make some money, take a break, get a new character, etc.

2. If you thought it was a mistake, you should have asked a dev/GM about it. This was pointed out about a month ago, I believe Atrophy/Steveo being the first to point it out when he lagged and got 17 rush. He told Mats about it.

In GMS, you can't even spam points into skills [I believe you can't]. In FMS though, you can spam pots extremely fast, spam points, everything. There's no "cooldown" to doing multiple things at once here and I don't know how hard that will be to implement.

[Shugi]

The list would be much longer if the shadow shifter glitch didn't exist. Almost all the high levels are affected by it... I thought I was going to be banned last night. Good thing I made contact with a GM. D:

[Amanda]

Glad this was taken care of. It was getting out of hand.

If you're lagging, the sensible thing to do is to stop clicking the arrow next to your skills until the lag passes. Not to keep clicking, because once the lag ends it's all going to be put it at once. Just like when you type messages or attack and such and then lag. And to be honest, I always figured that was common sense.

The server may not have as many active people as before (though my Buddy List doesn't show it and I meet new friends all the time), but there's also school and stuff this time of year and people are busy. Nothing wrong with people wanting to take breaks either.

What is wrong though, is abusing glitches in this game. If it was on accident, why didn't you contact someone to fix it? I'm sure anyone can figure out that even if your skill level is at like 11 or whatever with a mastery level of 10, something is clearly wrong, and talking to a GM or someone should be your first priority.

For those that abused it on purpose, that sickens me. The staff is working as hard as they can to make this game more and more like the real thing, but you're too impatient to wait for your Mastery Books to be available so you decide to abuse the system. And for that, a temp ban is a justified punishment. Though for the individuals who glitched 20 points into their skills (making it a lv30 skill), that's heavy abuse and I'd be quite pleased if there was some punishment worse than a 2-week temp ban.

If you can't wait to get your books, try making a new character, taking a break, quitting, or putting suggestions in on the forum. But for crying out loud, don't abuse the game. =\

[Tykian]

Pot... kettle... black...

Figured someone would say that. Originally, I was going to quote those I was talking to, but those tend to be personal attacks. This way, it was general.

[Slimey]

Lol, I accidentally got 11 achilles but I passed a 20 book so no problems, I guess.
I think the people knew they were abusing a glitch when you're getting like 5 more sp so they should have either reported it or they should just wait the week out.
and the "FMS is dying" crap, shut up already.

[Ringletts]

Yeah, like you fucking know the story... Before you sit there high and mighty smug in your superiorty that these people "deserve it" for "abusing glitches", realise that it can happen purely by mistake. My GF is the first name on the list and she was sitting next to me and talking looking at me while clicking adding points and clicked 3 extra without realising. (GMs check I think its 13 points in blizzard). She assumed she had found a glitch and had lost those 3 points but they would be reset so didnt even think of reporting.
It she was going to abuse this glitch, don't you think all over her skills would be over the level and blizzard would be a lot higher than 13?

Accident or not, all glitches should be reported no matter how small it seems.

[AquaSky]

In GMS, you can't even spam points into skills [I believe you can't]. In FMS though, you can spam pots extremely fast, spam points, everything. There's no "cooldown" to doing multiple things at once here and I don't know how hard that will be to implement.


Nope, the only reason you can add points here so fast is because tubi is in the client, and afaik in gMS that let you do everything without a 'cooldown'

[Kaasoljoyyx]

I'm just pretty sure if you hold say your pot button down here, in 5 seconds you'll basically lose over 100+ pots. In GMS, I don't remember that happening, it just happened slower so maybe 20ish~

And same for my level-ups, I don't recall being able to spam points in and it would go through. I would have to click and wait for it before it would let me do it again.

Again, I'm not sure. I didn't even know you could spam points here until a few days ago as I always used a point then waited for it to be added in, then used another one.

[AquaSky]

Yeah, as I said, it's because of tubi, it basically removes any waiting time between skills/points and looting.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Then can't they just get rid of it or something? The only upside to it is the ability to pot faster if you're using a lot of pots to get max hp/mp

i.e. You use sorcerrors to heal 6~7k mp due to MG/ultimate training
You use barbarians to heal 6~8k hp due to bossing/etc

Doesn't really matter to me but thanks for the explanation.

[Sykadelia]

Then can't they just get rid of it or something?

The glitch of being able to add more SP into a skill than how much you're allowed to has been fixed by Mats.

[butterfli]

Then can't they just get rid of it or something? The only upside to it is the ability to pot faster if you're using a lot of pots to get max hp/mp

i.e. You use sorcerrors to heal 6~7k mp due to MG/ultimate training
You use barbarians to heal 6~8k hp due to bossing/etc

Doesn't really matter to me but thanks for the explanation.

I dare say, I think the situation is taken care of now. Obviously, after this event, if people continue to do it will probably be perm'd instead of temp'd.

Edit: ks'd by KahluaNMilk.

[Andy]

It's high enough that you should have realized something was wrong.

Not to argue with you or anything, but I should point out that you can only go over the limit once, so he added the 7 extra points during one lag spike. He couldn't have noticed that something was wrong till it showed up.

[AquaSky]

The glitch of being able to add more SP into a skill than how much you're allowed to has been fixed by Mats.

Matt is not talking about the sp glitch, but rather, the tubi built into the client. to Matt - If Mats fixed the sp glitch, tubi may as well stay.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Yea, there's no other downside, except maybe statless characters can add more than 999 base.

[manspwnyou]

Woah long list of people compaining is coming.

Lol I was right.

[Loddlaen]

Lol I was right.

Glad you actually took the time to come down of your moral soapbox to read some of the "complaints"...

/end sarcasrm

[Congee]

lolbitter

[Loddlaen]

Not bitter (if directed at me). Just getting annoyed with people and their need to exert their moral superiority over an issue they know nothing about.

[Invincible]

My friend told me we were banned on msn without telling me it was a temp ban til later, I was happy for a moment until he told me it was a temp ban.

time to ruin economy more and finish my goal for max mesos

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Not bitter (if directed at me). Just getting annoyed with people and their need to exert their moral superiority over an issue they know nothing about.

Stop trying to justify yourself. You could have easily reported it or asked around but you didn't. Sure it's not fair but it's not the end of the world. You lose access for a week, big deal. On GMS, it's usually a month minimum.

[waffles]

Not to argue with you or anything, but I should point out that you can only go over the limit once, so he added the 7 extra points during one lag spike. He couldn't have noticed that something was wrong till it showed up.

thanks for the backup but its not really going to do anything, ill just need to wait out the week for something that shouldnt of been my fault <.<

o well at least i have my dk i can still use

[Jonathan]

If you're lagging, the sensible thing to do is to stop clicking the arrow next to your skills until the lag passes... ...I thought this was common sense

Reposted for truth and relevancy to Andy's post.

[waffles]

If you're lagging, the sensible thing to do is to stop clicking the arrow next to your skills until the lag passes... ...I thought this was common sense

well no duh, but what happens if you already clicked 5 or 6 times? GG its still going to add those points which is what happened in my case

[Jonathan]

If you have a case of lag on your PC, wouldn't you click each stat one at a time? And why would you click more times then what your mastery level allows in the first place?

[waffles]

ok

lets see your points are going up when your clicking and your arent that aware of how the glitch works....
no steps have been taken about what is going on or any threads posted

now what would you do in that situation, would you really think that it was the way they glitched? probably not unless youve done it before,

and why should it be my fault that i clicked more then once? shouldnt it be stopping at 10 mastery?

[Loddlaen]

Stop trying to justify yourself. You could have easily reported it or asked around but you didn't. Sure it's not fair but it's not the end of the world. You lose access for a week, big deal. On GMS, it's usually a month minimum.

Again you feel the need to show your moral superiority over an issue you know nothing about. For some people its not the ban itself that is upsetting but the fact that people may think they are "illegit" for this. The reactions of people in this thread show that there are some people who will pride themselves on being "better" than those affected even in face of the facts that for some it did happen purely by mistake.

Sure I could have reported it but I thought it was a lag issue and points were lost. Chalk it up to experience and "I'll know what to do next time". Plus not everyone frequents forums 24/7 in are as knowledgable about what to do in these situations...

[Kazoo]

i got banned and i didnt even skill abuse o.O

[Sykadelia]

4120005 30/20 35520 LilKazoo

Level 30/20 for skill Venom for character LilKazoo.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Again you feel the need to show your moral superiority over an issue you know nothing about. For some people its not the ban itself that is upsetting but the fact that people may think they are "illegit" for this. The reactions of people in this thread show that there are some people who will pride themselves on being "better" than those affected even in face of the facts that for some it did happen purely by mistake.

Sure I could have reported it but I thought it was a lag issue and points were lost. Chalk it up to experience and "I'll know what to do next time". Plus not everyone frequents forums 24/7 in are as knowledgable about what to do in these situations...

Illegit is just a bullshit term that doesn't mean crap. Now looks who is "showing their superiority" over someone else over an issue you know nothing about. If you knew me, you'd know how I feel about that term, exhackers, hackers, etc.

You're taking things too seriously. It sucks, it's over, pick up your toys and go home and wait until the ban passes. We know not all the bans were against people who purposely did it but the only way to "fairly" do this is to ban the majority of people the staff thought abused it. It may not be right or wrong but it is the best way to handle things from a neutral standpoint.

[waffles]

4120005 30/20 35520 LilKazoo

Level 30/20 for skill Venom for character LilKazoo.

LOL owned

[Loddlaen]

Illegit is just a bullshit term that doesn't mean crap. Now looks who is "showing their superiority" over someone else over an issue you know nothing about. If you knew me, you'd know how I feel about that term, exhackers, hackers, etc.

You're taking things too seriously. It sucks, it's over, pick up your toys and go home and wait until the ban passes. We know not all the bans were against people who purposely did it but the only way to "fairly" do this is to ban the majority of people the staff thought abused it. It may not be right or wrong but it is the best way to handle things from a neutral standpoint.

At what point did I refer to myself? Or refer to you specifically for being the people who take things like this so seriously.
I'm only taking it seriously because someone I care about was caught in this for no reason other than she wasn't watching when she was clicking. Maybe I'm not used to the different vibe on FMS compared to global, but on global this would be reason to be "publically outed" as a hacker.

[Congee]

on global this would be reason to be "publically outed" as a hacker.
We know not all the bans were against people who purposely did it but the only way to "fairly" do this is to ban the majority of people the staff thought abused it. It may not be right or wrong but it is the best way to handle things from a neutral standpoint.
It's a good thing this isn't GMS and we know there were people who were banned that didn't want to abuse the glitch, and most of us wouldn't even remember who got banned a month from now. It's not like people haven't been banned before. They sure have. For example, the people who abused the dc/respawn/whatever glitch at zak, they were temped. But guess what? Nobody cares if a person was temp banned. It doesn't affect their gameplay, and doesn't change how people view them. Hell, half the people I see on that list are people that I like/don't mind. Oh well, they abused a glitch. That doesn't make me like them any less. So, if that's what you're getting all upset about, like you claim it is, don't worry, it won't be an issue for you, or rather, your girlfriend.

You've got your head stuck as far up your ass as the people you claim have these "moral superiority" complexes.

Or refer to you specifically for being the people who take things like this so seriously.
Stop trying to justify yourself. You could have easily reported it or asked around but you didn't. Sure it's not fair but it's not the end of the world. You lose access for a week, big deal. On GMS, it's usually a month minimum.

Again you feel the need to show your moral superiority over an issue you know nothing about. For some people its not the ban itself that is upsetting but the fact that people may think they are "illegit" for this. The reactions of people in this thread show that there are some people who will pride themselves on being "better" than those affected even in face of the facts that for some it did happen purely by mistake.



Sure I could have reported it but I thought it was a lag issue and points were lost. Chalk it up to experience and "I'll know what to do next time". Plus not everyone frequents forums 24/7 in are as knowledgable about what to do in these situations...
"Not everyone frequents the forums" is not a reasonable argument, as it should be common knowledge not to abuse a glitch, and if you do accidentally abuse the glitch, to report the glitch. Hell, you went out of the way to attack not only people who said they thought it was justified, but also attacked people who said there'd be many complainers. That surely implies you're only angry at people who won't listen to both sides of the story, and doesn't indicate that you're just arguing for the sake of arguing and bitterness. True, he also said those who abused glitches deserved it, but there is nothing wrong in saying that abuse glitchers deserve punishment. They DO deserve punishment. That does not mean that everyone who was banned abused the glitch on purpose, but that does mean those those who knowingly abused it for the sake of abusing it deserves punishment.

Stop bickering.

[Scorpion]

Aww Santa (Shuriken) I'll miss u...lol
Guys i was so sleepy when i maxed shadow stars by mistake, i tought it was venom...lol

[Loddlaen]

You've got your head stuck as far up your ass as the people you claim have these "moral superiority" complexes.


Lol and you tell me to stop bickering while throwing lines like that out there?

I was simply defending my gf who takes not hacking/glitching very seriously and was very upset to think people were jumping to the conclusion that those banned did so maliciously.
I should have left my post at the original one.

[Zankarst]

Fair punishment, I suppose :P

[Congee]

Like I said, I sympathize with those who were banned because they accidentally put in too many points.

Why yes, you do need to stop bickering and lashing out at anyone who thought people deserved to be punished. If you're upset, fine, understandable, but that doesn't mean you should snap back at everyone else, especially with such clouded judgment, leading you to say some really hypocritical things.

[Shirley]

To add on top of what Congee said - we never do temp bans for hackers. Only permanent bans.

[quiksilver]

Maybe I've missed posts stating this, but just to be sure....

Will the people who abused the glitch get their SP removed from those skills that they were not suppose to get? It would be really unfair if they were still allowed to keep those extra points.

[ClericX]

I'm wondering as to how this was fixed in the code. Did you modify the sp add handler to only allow you to add one skill at a time and you cannot add more until the one you add registered in? So like even if your lagging at the end of the lag only 1 skill point would be added as opposed to this happening?

[Sykadelia]

Maybe I've missed posts stating this, but just to be sure....

Will the people who abused the glitch get their SP removed from those skills that they were not suppose to get? It would be really unfair if they were still allowed to keep those extra points.

Yes, of course they will be removed and they have been removed.

[Kazoo]

I dont know why it says I only have lvl 20 Venom because I got it from Zakum and landed it o.O

[Neko]

He had lvl 20 Venom^ so he had no way to put more points on it without landing Venom 30, zrunners from WhiteLotus can confirm this. We were there.

[AquaSky]

^
not proof, sry.

[Neko]

Not a GM or Dev^ It would be better to read that from them.

Just pointing out that he worked Venom 30(second in the server, back in the time when zak worked and people got zhelms for the 1st time, not the event ones), like mr. "I have to get in everything" said, yeah there's no other proof than our word, unless Adrian ss'd when he worked Venom 30 but eh, he should discuss this with a GM or Dev.

Edit: Isn't there a rule against spam like? v

[AquaSky]

Hey, if theres flames, hop on and add your own petrol. FUCKING EPIC FUN.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

It's quite possible the Devs did a:

"Okay, these zakum skills were from glitched zakum runs so now we're going to take them away"

"Okay, now that we took away everyone's Venom30, this person who had Venom 30 is now 10 over their maximum"

*ban*

[Sykadelia]

It's quite possible the Devs did a:

"Okay, these zakum skills were from glitched zakum runs so now we're going to take them away"

"Okay, now that we took away everyone's Venom30, this person who had Venom 30 is now 10 over their maximum"

*ban*

None of the devs did that. One of the devs will do that in the next server check.

http://i33.tinypic.com/xcn9tu.jpg

No more arguing about this case because both the skill table and the logs say otherwise.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Jw, what do you classify as a "glitched" zakum or how are you going to handle the situation?

[akinayumi]

I think it's fair to be banned. Accidental or not. It's only a temporary ban, they're not saying you're perma banned. And up to a fortnight.
There really is no way to tell whether it really was accidental or on purpose.
Not playing FMS for a week or two won't kill you, although I think it's the concept behind the banning that has everyone stirring, no?

[Kazoo]

Boredom got me. Using and working a Venom20 skillbook after already having Venom30 must have reset its master lvl back to 20. I don't know if you guys have logs of worked skill books but if not, oh wells lol.

[Jack]

I think that this wasn't the best route to go... considering the amount of people contemplating quitting the server due to content or playability. The only thing the temporary ban did was to hold the door wide open for said people, and give them a little nudge. I think the idea that any of it is purposefully illegitimate, or that anyone could honestly expect the players to act perfectly legitimate on a private server is really silly. Skills aren't even available, and when a glitch like this is so easy to abuse some people don't even think about the consequences while their skill level is rising above what it was supposed to be limited to - instead they have the reaction any normal person would and think "Cool!"

The server is making some bad decisions, people who play private servers don't want GMS. Most everyone who was worth anything quit months ago when they realized it wasn't going anywhere.

[Ambot]

Most everyone who was worth anything quit months ago when they realized it wasn't going anywhere.

Don't worry, Jack, I'm still here.

On topic, everyone I know on that list did it on purpose and talked to other people on how to make themselves lag so they could do it themselves. So while I feel sorry for the people it happened to accidentally, my mind still sings, "you deserve it" to the majority.

[Jack]

Sorry - made a mistake.

[waffles]

quick question

what time zone is the ban lifted?

[Zankarst]

quick question

what time zone is the ban lifted?

Either PST or EST :s

I'd probably bet on PST though.

[waffles]

dam =( o well

[Eldon]

there goes half of oolala


Fixed.

[dope92]

there goes half of fms
lol

[Scorpion]

Wow! Guys! im so screwed! i just got! Genesis and i accidently added all my sp to genesis... now my genesis is lv 22! i already sent a ticket asking for help! cuz i dont wanna get temp banned! i was really lagging when i was trying to max it till 10!

[convictx]

Just keep contacting GMs.

Everyone who got banned but did not deserve it, I sympathize, as you did not truely did not deserve the ban.

But for those who did get banned and did not deserve to, why did n't you call a GM to reset your points? I mean, it's obvious that you not passing a skillbook, but still getting over the limit is a glitch so why not call them?

[butterfli]

Wow! Guys! im so screwed! i just got! Genesis and i accidently added all my sp to genesis... now my genesis is lv 22! i already sent a ticket asking for help! cuz i dont wanna get temp banned! i was really lagging when i was trying to max it till 10!

after this, you still didnt wait for the lag to lift after adding points?

anyway, the ban should be lifted in a few hours so i dont see a need for people who were banned to debate about whether or not it was an accident.

[Shirley]

Your points have already been reset. As much as I understand your anxiety about a possible temp-ban, submitting a ticket, posting your situation in visitor messages for multiple GMs/devs, AND posting it in several threads is not appropriate. We are trying to take care of matters as soon as we come across them. Spamming it will not help.