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    Old 09-02-2008, 02:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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    Default Quite a few suggestions.

    With FMS gaining new users and what not the first suggestion can be thrown away.

    Problem) Weapon scrolls have lost their value. This may not apply to all scrolls but claw scrolls have gone down what seems to be completely in demand. I smega'd for them and someone tried to buy them off me at 900k a piece. Obviously they were trying to weasel me out of them but if that's the only offer I get something is wrong.

    Solution) I suggest making an easier way of obtaining level 64 maple weapons. This does not mean saturate the market with them because then that shit becomes too common and there is no longer a challenge. Give them the drop rate of ilbis(Global drop rate) in KFT (because that side of the Maple world is useless already). The weapons wouldn't be overpopulating the market but we'd finally have a use for wand scrolls (and the others as well at this rate).

    Problem) Dex scrolls seem to be an issue in this market. Specifically shoe jump. This isn't really a problem as much as it is a want from our players but without an ample supply of zakum helmets we're all increasing our base dex beyond comfort.

    Solution) Make KPQ give out more dex scrolls. This doesn't have to be 60%s or 30%s. We just need some better equips floating around. Any well scrolled or even decent equips seem to be locked within the grips of every players hands. No one seems to be scrolling for profit. The only time I ever see anyone sell any dex scrolled equips would be when they're quitting a character in which the equips cannot be recycled onto the next.

    Problem) We need another PQ that people actually want to do and works.

    Solution) Add in LPQ or PPQ. LPQ could take care of the above mentioned problem while PPQ (with adjusted rates) could be a fun alternative to leveling.

    Problem) Avenger venom soft lag out.

    Solution) This shit pisses me off. >_> Nothing gets your nerves fired up like using a summon rock and warrior elixer only to have them both expire due to relogging.

    Problem) Claw mastery gives no extra stars

    Solution) Obvious.

    Problem) Bishops are bored out of their minds due to no apparent working skills.

    Solution) I suggest a PQ full of healable monsters (undead PQ). The zipangu map (the one that leads to bains, it's like night and stuff) as the background. You'd have to answer a riddle of some sort(random hopefully) with the drops of the monsters. Rewards could be NX(Halloween style), nocturnal stave, and jr reaper pets. Others would work but nothing comes to mind at the moment.

    Problem) I quote my friend when I say " Content ... I don't care for the custom PQs; I'd rather just have what is already in game, because I enjoy that. I mean, if the rest of the game were coded, then fine... Custom content is nice. But I'd actually really like CPQ/PPQ, because they're just ridiculously fun. >_>"

    Solution) CPQ is hard to program, I understand that. It looks complex as shit and I've never taken a class so I don't claim to be superior. So does PPQ. For a replacement CPQ you could have a KFT PQ where you hit things (chests, flowers, just some sort of trigger) to summon monsters on the opposite team.
    I don't know how hard it would be to implement a point system but if that fails you could have it go on until the opposite team dies. Hover the level from like 70 - 50 to prevent long matches.

    Problem) "[18:06] Ernie: That would help the people sub 100
    [18:06] Ernie: But would be useless to any bishop." in regards to my undead PQ.

    Solution) He suggests an HPQ type for higher levels. A room full of skelegons and I assume other high leveled monsters in where you have to protect an NPC. Failing to do so gets you booted. He didn't mention much on the prize so I suppose that would be up to you guys.

    Problem) Drop trading NX or having to pester someone to help.

    Solution) Implementing an NPC to hold them for you.

    It seems like people just want more distractions from grinding or, failing that, more scrolls to help them grind. Most of these suggestions aren't mine (I don't have a bishop) but sound pretty fun.

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    Old 09-02-2008, 02:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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    as for the stuff with scrolls, and scrolling equips, yeah everyone scrolls for themself, because like you said, there arent godly equips on the market. I dont really think thats a problem, it just challenges you to make your own equips. and claw atks are gonna be more at first, cause there were so many hermits at the start. they've leveled out now to about 1m (10%s and 60%s), which i think is fine.

    people dont scroll for profit, cause most of the time youll lose money. if your scrolling something godly, that you would sell for money, generaly its for your own class, and you wouldnt sell it until you got something better.

    for shoe dex scrolls, just hunt 10%s at HHG2, or 60%s at bernard greys, and 30%s come form the lvl 40 quest. they also come from some gachapons probably. just because you cant buy them easily doesnt mean you cant get them. same with 60% overal dex, and 60 cape dex. hunt ghost stumps/boner fish. some of these scrolls do come from KPQ to, a friend got 60% overal dex from it.

    bishops do get gyped tho, i would give them a different quest to get genesis when the rest of us get most of our 4th job skills, fuck HTPQ.
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    Did you mean JUMP and not DEX scrolls ilan? 10% Jump scrolls drop fairly commonly from leatties. >_>
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    Some great ideas no doubt. You're absolutely correct that some scrolls (such as 10% Overall Dex and 60% Shoe Jump) are in very low supply due to a few factors.

    1) Much smaller player base.
    2) Much fewer gachapon tickets in circulation.
    3) Less KPQers.

    Also, the fact that some classes have an abundance of 30% weapon scrolls while other don't is a bit unfair too. As a bowmaster, I've seen a number of 30% Bow scrolls that I could count a single hand, while 30% Crossbow seems to fall like raindrops in Seattle. Now, snipers and marksmen are considered to be less powerful compared to rangers and bowmasters from what I've heard, so perhaps this is a balancing factor. However, I don't see more 30% 1h or 2h BW/Axe in comparison to swords or daggers compared to claws.

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    Problem) Claw mastery gives no extra stars

    Solution) Obvious.
    I'm not completely sold on this being an issue. I have a 9x Hermit, so I understand the problem, especially with Triple Throw becoming available. However, with the super expanded inventories and the fact that steelies (in a 5x meso drop server) sell for under 1m mesos and people will give away tobis, I'm not completely convinced that this issue needs to be delved into as much.

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    Problem) Weapon scrolls have lost their value. This may not apply to all scrolls but claw scrolls have gone down what seems to be completely in demand. I smega'd for them and someone tried to buy them off me at 900k a piece. Obviously they were trying to weasel me out of them but if that's the only offer I get something is wrong.

    Solution) I suggest making an easier way of obtaining level 64 maple weapons. This does not mean saturate the market with them because then that shit becomes too common and there is no longer a challenge. Give them the drop rate of ilbis(Global drop rate) in KFT (because that side of the Maple world is useless already). The weapons wouldn't be overpopulating the market but we'd finally have a use for wand scrolls (and the others as well at this rate).
    Making Lv64 Maple Weapons would help, but I'm not sure if there is an immediate need for them. People are hoarding for when certain weapons become more easily available. For example, I've got about a dozen 60% Bow scrolls and 3-4 10% Bow scrolls for when I win an auction on a decent Metus/Nisrock, perhaps even another perfect Arund if I get lazy. I think that the higher level weapons and certain scrolls (addressed above) need to drop more. Nisrocks don't drop worth crap as far as I've heard, and Cravens/Sleeves are in the same boat. I don't know about swords or axes, but I know I've NPC'd my fair share of the Lv100 2h BW from Red Kents. Crossbows seem to be in fair circulation, but as I don't hunt them or search for them on the forums, I wouldn't know. Daggers seem to drop with some frequency, but population of the various classes have something to do with that as well. I know there are a ton of bowmasters and night lords, making the low drop rate of Nisrocks and Cravens/Sleeves particularly disabling.

    As far as Bishops go, the Undead PQ isn't a bad idea by any means. Once Zakum gets rolling, Bishops are very much a needed commodity for sustained DPS, but for now I think that they need something, anything. Angel Ray 10 or Resurrection, at the very least, for a taste of 4th job. Personally, I'd like to see a "Rise of the Elementals PQ" where you face a variety of elemental-typed monsters. This would make it so that elementally neutral classes (most of them) would be beneficial in addition to F/Ps, I/Ls, Paladins, and Bishops. Make some poison-weak, some ice-weak, some lit-weak, some fire-weak, some holy-weak, and some heal-able. Mages and Paladins don't get a lot of love in parties unless they have their ultimate.

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    Problem) Drop trading NX or having to pester someone to help.

    Solution) Implementing an NPC to hold them for you.
    I've thought about this actually. An NPC that has bank space for a specific password. Give the password "knobblyknees" and you have access to that "bank", making it very easy to transfer stuff between characters on the same and on different accounts, even making you able to have a "guild bank".

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    Problem) We need another PQ that people actually want to do and works.

    Solution) Add in LPQ or PPQ. LPQ could take care of the above mentioned problem while PPQ (with adjusted rates) could be a fun alternative to leveling.
    Great idea. I always liked LPQ, even OPQ, but I think that abusing the PQs should be a perm. ban (glitching and the like) since you're getting 20x exp as it is. Amoria PQ, without the restrictions to married couples, would be fantastic, especially as many (including myself) have not had $30 to blow on such an expenditure.

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    Problem) Avenger venom soft lag out.

    Solution) This shit pisses me off. >_> Nothing gets your nerves fired up like using a summon rock and warrior elixer only to have them both expire due to relogging.
    xd Nothing to say about this, except that I know the feeling as I often train with Silver Hawk and Warrior Elixirs and I'll get this from the current Puppet glitch or Mortal Blow. Nothing like wasting a good 15k every few minutes. Even though you can easily make that money back in a few mobs, it is annoying at best.

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    Problem) I quote my friend when I say " Content ... I don't care for the custom PQs; I'd rather just have what is already in game, because I enjoy that. I mean, if the rest of the game were coded, then fine... Custom content is nice. But I'd actually really like CPQ/PPQ, because they're just ridiculously fun. >_>"

    Solution) CPQ is hard to program, I understand that. It looks complex as shit and I've never taken a class so I don't claim to be superior. So does PPQ. For a replacement CPQ you could have a KFT PQ where you hit things (chests, flowers, just some sort of trigger) to summon monsters on the opposite team.
    I don't know how hard it would be to implement a point system but if that fails you could have it go on until the opposite team dies. Hover the level from like 70 - 50 to prevent long matches.
    I think custom content is wonderful, but I would also prefer a focus on content that already exists in gMS.

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    Problem) "[18:06] Ernie: That would help the people sub 100
    [18:06] Ernie: But would be useless to any bishop." in regards to my undead PQ.

    Solution) He suggests an HPQ type for higher levels. A room full of skelegons and I assume other high leveled monsters in where you have to protect an NPC. Failing to do so gets you booted. He didn't mention much on the prize so I suppose that would be up to you guys.
    Ernie has a good idea here, but I don't know how you would balance this unless you made it scale based on the character level of the highest character in the party. As far as prizes, perhaps a 30% weapon scroll for your class that is untradeable or something.

    Hope I gave you enjoy replies to wet your palette.
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